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🗓️ 17 July 2025
⏱️ 139 minutes
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Josh Gondelman (@joshgondelman, Positive Reinforcement) joins the 'boys to talk sports fandom, Boston eats, and New England comedy before a review of the Little Caesars Fantastic 4 Pizza. Plus, a new Snack or Wack.
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Sources for this week's intro:
https://movieweb.com/fantastic-four-director-josh-trank-landed-in-movie-jail/
https://weminoredinfilm.com/2015/05/02/fired-the-strange-story-of-josh-trank-simon-kinberg-the-fantastic-four-star-wars/
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/inside-a-star-wars-firing-792933/
https://collider.com/fantastic-four-2015-josh-trank/
https://www.polygon.com/2020/5/5/21246679/josh-trank-capone-interview-fantastic-four-chronicle
https://www.ilitchnewshub.com/post/little-caesars-r-teams-up-with-marvel-studios-the-fantastic-four-first-steps
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| 0:15.0 | The three youngest directors to have a film open number one at the American box office are |
| 0:19.4 | James Cameron, |
| 0:23.4 | Stephen Spielberg, and Josh Trank? |
| 0:29.6 | Trank's 2012 Chronicle, a found-footed superhero film scripted by Neppo Baby Pariah Max Landis, was a surprise smash, putting him on a garden path to join former Wunderkind's |
| 0:34.9 | Cameron and Spielberg as a reliable box office hitmaker. |
| 0:38.9 | Trank was handed that opportunity with his next job. At just the age of 30, he was tasked with |
| 0:44.3 | helming the third cinematic version of Fantastic Four. Lose the the the, it's cleaner, |
| 0:49.5 | following Roger Corman's unreleased B-movie 90s version and Tim Story's two middling |
| 0:54.0 | efforts in the |
| 0:54.7 | odds. But the production struggled as Trank clashed with his cast and the studio, and also was a source |
| 1:01.3 | of offset drama. From the Hollywood reporter, quote, Trank had several small dogs who were left in a |
| 1:08.1 | rented house in New Orleans while the film was shooting there. |
| 1:15.8 | According to sources, as much as $100,000 worth of damage was done to the property. |
| 1:22.3 | Ultimately, the film was arrested from him by Fox, and in 2015, in a fit of pre-release frustration, |
| 1:28.4 | Trank tweeted, quote, a year ago, I had a fantastic version of this, and it would have received great reviews. You'll probably never see it. That's reality, though. Since then, his only film |
| 1:34.9 | has been 2020's Capone, starring Tom Hardy as the titular Ciphilitic Gangster, which was denied |
| 1:40.5 | theatrical release due to the pandemic. But Hollywood being Hollywood, the Marvel IP |
| 1:45.7 | Trank once steered as being mined yet again. Now fittingly, in its fourth iteration, the MCU |
| 1:51.2 | quartet has partnered with, fittingly, the nation's fourth largest pizza chain for one pie split four |
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