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Literary Friction - Vulnerability with Katherine Angel

Literary Friction

Literary Friction

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4.9593 Ratings

🗓️ 25 March 2021

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

This month, as spring begins to spring, we're thinking about vulnerability, about the perils and pleasures of opening up. Joining us is author and academic Katherine Angel, whose latest book Tomorrow Sex Will Be Good Again is a nuanced and thought-provoking examination of women’s desire in the age of consent, exploring the shortcomings of our current discussions around things like sex, power and violence. Our theme is inspired by Katherine’s book, and her discussion of the necessity of vulnerability in sex, so listen in for our thoughts about some of the books that explore vulnerability and the complicated terrain of consent, as well as the vulnerability of writing itself. Come let your guard down with us for the next hour of Literary Friction. Recommendations on the theme, Vulnerability: Octavia: To Throw Away Unopened by Viv Albertine https://www.faber.co.uk/9780571326211-to-throw-away-unopened.html Carrie: The Lesser Bohemians by Eimear McBride https://www.faber.co.uk/9780571327850-the-lesser-bohemians.html General recommendations: Octavia: Simple Passion by Annie Ernaux, translated by Tanya Leslie https://fitzcarraldoeditions.com/books/simple-passion Katherine: Gay Bar: Why We Went Out by Jeremy Atherton Lin https://granta.com/products/gay-bar/ Carrie: Things I Don’t Want to Know by Deborah Levy https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/253/253221/things-i-don-t-want-to-know/9780241983089.html You can support us on Patreon: http://patreon.com/litfriction Email us: litfriction@gmail.com Tweet us & find us on Instagram: @litfriction This episode is sponsored by Picador https://www.panmacmillan.com/picador

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0:00.0

Welcome to Literary Friction.

0:18.5

I'm Carrie Plitt here in Oxford, and as we have been for more than a year now, can you believe that?

0:25.2

No.

0:25.5

I just refuse to believe it.

0:29.9

I like that. Just don't accept that this last year has happened. But I am using the internet to magically record a podcast with the voice you

0:40.1

just heard, my co-host, Octavia Bright, who is miles away in London. Hi, Octavia. How are you doing?

0:47.4

I'm good. I'm actually not in London. I'm just a disembodied voice floating in cyberspace.

0:52.9

Another way of dealing with the pandemic. Very fascinating.

0:56.2

That's right. Just full dissociation. That's where I've got to. I'm good. I'm actually making

1:00.7

minestroney, not right this minute, obviously, but I'm very excited because for once in my life,

1:06.0

I was organized enough to get dinner on before we started this session. So I will be rewarded with this piping hot

1:12.5

minestroneous soup when we finish, which is not only a really nice thought, but also I'm feeling

1:18.2

very satisfied because I've used up all my old cheese rinds in the soup and proved to John that

1:23.5

they are worth keeping because he thinks he's always been a bit horrified by me

1:27.5

squirreling away all of the Parmesan Rines and I'm going to prove him wrong.

1:33.0

That's how I am. How are you?

1:35.1

I'm good. I'm now thinking about Parmesan Rines because I am obsessed with Parmesan

1:40.2

and I put it on everything to the point where I go through like one big hunk of Parmesan a week, which Eddie mocks me for, but he's also been saving the rinds, but we haven't actually done anything with them. And so the other day I was going through the freezer and I found this giant bag of Parmesan rinds. We're just in the freezer. So maybe I should make some minestroneous too.

2:01.4

Minestrone is the best use for those rinds. I'm also so happy that Eddie is a kindred rind hoarder.

2:06.9

He's a rindhorter. I can tell you that one of the rinds that's in my soup tonight is a year old.

2:12.3

Hands down. Wow. Yeah. Amazing. I'm not that horrified by the rind, but I'm just confused by them. So this has been great. Otherwise, I'm fine. And I'm also thrilled that our guest today on the show is Catherine Angel, whose latest book, Tomorrow Sex Will Be Good Again, is a short and thought-provoking examination of women's desire in the age of consent. Inspired by Catherine's book, Tomorrow, Sex Will Be Good Again, is a short and thought-provoking examination of women's

2:34.9

desire in the age of consent. Inspired by Catherine's book and her discussion of the necessity of

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