Welcome to Lorry Friction. I'm Carrie Fri Friction. I'm Carrie Plitt sitting here in my home studio in Oxford,

and thrilled that through the power of the internet, I am joined by my beloved co-host Octavia Bright from London.

Hi, Octavia. Hi, Carrie. How are you doing today? I am okay. I would say I'm about a 6.5 out of 10,

which is pretty close to as high as I get these days. That's not so bad.

Yeah. Somehow the birds are out tweeting away outside, which is absolutely lovely. And I went up to

Hampstead Heath this morning, which is a little bit of a walk from my flat, but not too far.

And just got big lungfuls of fresh air before there were lots of other people around. And it was

very, very, very fucking restorative, I would say. How about you? How are you doing?

You know, as every week, I'm up and down, some days are better than others. This week was tough

for some reason. And I talked to a few friends who said the same. There was something that felt like

too much about this week. I had the same feeling. Yeah. But we're recording this at the beginning

of a bank holiday weekend. And I think we're both feeling the endorphins that come with some of a break. Although you have to work all day. You just told me. I do have to work all day. But it's okay. It's good work. It's work that I love. I think we're going to go in a long walk later, which will be nice. Yeah, really good. You just got to get moving in these times, you know, move the body, connect with your physical self. Totally. It's very easy to feel like a brain in a jar at the moment, I think. I agree. Well, also it's just quite funny because I'm looking at you on my tiny screen on my phone and so you kind of are a brain in a jar.

I would, you know, are a brain in a jar.

I would, you know, being a big brain isn't a bad thing.

No, not at all.

But I also like the body part of living.

Yes, me too.

And I like your body.

I'm blushing.

That is a great segue into our show. I'm actually very excited about the theme of the show

today, which is intimacy, something that I've been thinking about a lot lately under lockdown,

when a certain kind of intimacy with my partner is very available to me and I'm sort of relying on

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