Welcome to Literary Friction. I'm Carrie Plitt, here as always with my co-host, Octavia Bright.

Hi, Octavia. How are you? Hi, Carrie. I'm very hot. That's mainly how I am. And I was giggling

when we logged on because our last show, we were complaining about how cold and wet and

crap the summer had been. And I don't know if I said it, but I internally wished for a warm

September. And we got our wish, but it's meant that I have to say to all our listeners,

I cannot possibly survive this recording session without having the window open, which means you

might hear some trains, you might hear the cockerel of Peckham Rye, which is so addled by the heat that he's been cockadoodooly doing his heart at like four and then again at 6pm and I don't know what's happening to him. There's a cockerel on your street in Peckham? There's a cockerel in Peckham. I don't know exactly where he lives, but I hear him every

morning. Luckily, I wake up early, so we wake up together. A taste of the rural life. Very exciting for you.

Yeah, Peckham Rye, that notoriously rural spot. How about you? How are you? I'm also hot. I have had to shut

my window because it was so loud and with all the trains passing,

but I think I'm visibly sweating at this point, so it's good we're not on video. I mean, I love the heat. I'm not going to complain. It's a little bit weird to have it at the beginning of September when it's supposed to be this back-to-school time, and yet, like, I have to wear, like, booty shorts every day just to keep cool.

So, I mean, I don't have to wear a booty shorts.

I'm sorry. I just have to wear my sexiest outfit every day in this weather. I just, I cannot survive without putting on my kinky little shorts.

Many chances in the UK. You have to grab your opportunity to wear booty shorts.

If you're wearing booty shorts for this episode, I'll put on my negligent and then we'll

be matching.

Yeah.

Anyway, today on the show, we are delighted to welcome the author Naomi Klein to talk about her

latest book, Dopplganger.

This is a compelling and intellectually rigorous journey that begins with a mix-up.

Other people kept confusing Naomi Klein with another Naomi, Naomi Wolf, the author of the best-selling feminist manifesto, The Beauty Myth.

Then the other Naomi got lost in a mirror world of right-wing conspiracies,

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