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Listen now, on Spotify. Oh, hello.

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Oh, hello. Welcome to Forever 35 a podcast about the things we do to take care of

ourselves. I happen to be Kate Spencer and I'm Dorie Schifrier. And we are

not experts. We're not. We're two friends who like to talk a lot about

serums. We are. Hello Dory. Hello Kate. Dory I wrote wrote in my show notes, well our show notes, that I am now part of the barefoot shoe

revolution.

Now, you hadn't mentioned this on a previous episode that you were barefoot shoe curious.

Well I bought some barefoot shoes, but the name barefoot shoe is misleading. But I did buy some zero drop sneakers essentially. They're

like minimalist shoes so that you get more. They basically have

very wide toebed so that my toes can spread out. They're like the opposite of a hoka.

This what's happened.

And...

Well, I'm trying them out, seeing how they feel. You know I've been, excuse me, I've been wearing sneakers

very consistently because I have this plantar facitis and what I kind of have been learning is like maybe those

like very thick supportive sneakers aren't actually improving what's going on in my foot.

So I bought these shoes by Flux, Flux footwear.

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