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Betrayal Seasons 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Listener Mail - How Do I Help My Friend? | Betrayal Weekly — BONUS

Betrayal Seasons 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

iHeartPodcasts | Glass Podcasts

True Crime, Relationships, Society & Culture

4.6655 Ratings

🗓️ 1 May 2025

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

A listener wrote to us with a heartbreaking question: What can I say to my friend who won’t leave an abuser? Is there anything I can say to get through to her?  

We bring on survivor Ashley Trujillo from Betrayal Season 2, who’s faced a similar choice, and therapist Jessica Baum to unpack the trauma, denial, and deep attachment that can keep people stuck.

For more on attachment and healing, check out Jessica Baum’s book "Anxiously Attached, Becoming More Secure in Life and Love.”   

If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at betrayalpod@gmail.com and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod 

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.6

Guaranteed human.

0:05.6

One of the last things I said to her was, when you go into that courtroom, you have to pick a side to sit on.

0:13.7

You can sit with your daughter or you can sit with your husband.

0:18.4

And I hope that you're able to make the right choice.

0:34.5

I'm Andrea Gunning, and this is a special bonus episode of Betrayal.

0:43.0

A few months ago, we got an email from a listener that stood out to our team.

0:48.0

We're going to call this listener Elizabeth.

0:50.8

She had watched Season 2 of Betrayal on Hulu, which tells the story of a stepdaughter that was

0:56.2

violated by her stepfather. Elizabeth wrote to us because the same thing was playing out in her

1:01.7

own life, or rather, in her best friend's life. Elizabeth and her friend will call her Sarah have been close for 13 years.

1:13.8

They used to live in the same apartment building.

1:16.6

Their daughters were around the same age.

1:18.8

Sarah was raising her daughter with her new husband who became her stepdad,

1:23.2

the only father her daughter knew.

1:26.1

Elizabeth and Sarah's families became close.

1:28.8

They planned joint family vacations and shared holidays.

1:32.4

Elizabeth felt like an aunt to Sarah's daughter, who was now 19.

1:36.9

A few months ago, Sarah texted Elizabeth, saying she needed to talk.

1:41.4

It was an emergency.

1:50.9

She basically just started sobbing and told me everything.

1:58.6

She had been in the car with her daughter that day and she had said something about her husband breaking up pattern of abuse because he was abused, sexually abuse as a child.

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