The money's a byproduct. It's a byproduct of value creation and the more value we can create by impacting people or reaching people and

Really the biggest way to deliver that value is to create a compelling vision

I think vision is the rarest commodity that there is in the world and if we're in scarcity, it's hard to have vision

So if you could be more abundant what you realize is vision is what drives the most value

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Garrett, welcome to the unmistakable creative. Thanks so much for taking the time to join us.

Hey, thanks for having me. I look forward to this. Yeah, it is my pleasure to have you. You know, so I came across your story by two different ways.

One was by one of our listeners who happened to have worked for you as well and then right after we booked your interview

Philip McCurden sent me an email saying you should really have Garrett and I said, yeah, we actually have them on the schedule already.

So the fact that two people in our circle of influence recommended you is very telling to me to tell me that we had to have you here.

So, you know, I want to start with a question that I found has been very revealing and interesting and that is what did your parents do for a living?

And how did that end up impacting the choices that you've made with your life in your career?

My dad was a coal miner. So he just retired last year from being a coal miner and even my grandparents and my grandfathers and my great-grandfathers were all coal miners.

My mom actually, she was a, she worked at a credit union for a really long time.

Then she was a payroll clerk for them and then she moved on to working in the school district and doing payroll there.

And in 2007, I actually hired her because I was having issues with some of my bookkeeper and I was like, I just told her,

Hey, if I'm going to be embezzled for him, I want it to be you.

And I convinced her to come and she still does my personal finances. She doesn't run, she's not the controller for wealth factory, but she runs my investments and my personal stuff so that she can still judge where I spend my money up until these days, you know.

So the coal mining piece, I mean, that's one of those, you know, sort of old school jobs. I didn't even realize that, you know,

like there are still people who do that to this day.

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