I am George Knapp listening to that UFO podcast and having one hell of a good time.

The call in this month certainly does have an international feel to it.

We've been all over the globe and joining me now from New Zealand I have Tad.

Tad welcome to the podcast.

Thanks Andy.

Glad to be. Very good, very good to have you on very much opposite sides of the globe right now but sharing a common common you know theme common interest in UFOs and you've shared with me already privately a story of yours that goes back a few years.

And I think you want to share that on the podcast.

So the floor is yours Tad.

What you want to talk about?

I want to talk about UFO Close Encounter, had just over 30 years ago in 1989 and just to set the scene it was the start of a summer holiday and I was traveling around with my now wife on a motor bike and a tent and we were calling in different places, staying in different sort of

countryside settings and this day we found some at a camp outside Stratford

upon Avon because we wanted to go and see a play and we found a farmer who

led us camp in a newly cropped crop field and it was a big field and in the middle

there was a little standard trees and a pond.

We set up camp there.

Went into town, got the play, came home, had a cup of tea.

Sarah was just wrapping up the camp and I was just doing a little bit of

star gazing and then things got strange. I stood up and in the trees I could

swear I could see like big fairy lights twinkling all sorts of different colours and I started thinking

nah it's got to be you know lights in the distance and there's some kind of optical illusion but that's what it was

they were these strange like little tiny you know I got a big marble sized lights and they were scintillating and I said to Sarah, do you see that and she said yeah I can see that and then I noticed there was something

sort of coalescing or forming behind the trees just at the top of the tree level and it was like a big black misty shape and

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