Hey, Maine Justice listeners, it's Mary here.

Andrew and I wanted to share an episode from one of our colleagues' MSNBC podcasts,

Trump Land with Alex Wagner.

Alex has been reporting on the attorneys general who are standing up to President

Trump, Elon Musk, and Doge, and the legal strategies they're employing to do so.

We thought this week's episode might be particularly interesting

because it complements the episode that Andrew and I just released. It's all about the importance

of the rule of law. Take a listen and be sure to follow Trump Land with Alex Wagner, wherever you

get your podcasts. So we just landed in Phoenix where tonight there's going to be this town hall that's being organized by several state attorneys general across the country.

Not all the attorneys general who are involved in this kind of Avengers resistance group are going to be here.

But it's kind of like a kickoff for what's going to be a series of these events.

And really it feels kind of like this is the beginning of the public-facing side of the Democratic attempts to stop the Trump agenda, right?

A lot of it has been happening behind closed doors and lawsuits and courtrooms.

And now you're seeing like the first concerted public effort to channel the energy,

the rage, the frustration, the dismay that I think a lot of normal American citizens are

feeling as Trump has run roughshod over the federal government, Trump and Elon Musk.

So here we are in Phoenix, Arizona, baby.

It's 5.30 p.m. almost sunset in the desert. I'm just outside of Central High School,

a massive building just north of downtown.

The school has its own political history.

John McCain campaigned here when he was running against Barack Obama in 2008.

Several years later, President Obama spoke here as well.

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