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I'm David Dukovney and this is Fail Better, a show where failure, not success, shapes who we are.

Steve Burns is a voiceover artist and an actor, probably best known as the original host of the children's show, Blues Clues. In case you're not familiar, as I wasn't, Steve walked young viewers through a series of challenges by searching for and interpreting clues,

and he became known for

his character's patience, curiosity, and upbeat nature in the late 90s and early 2000s, that is,

until his abrupt departure from the show in 2002. Steve knew he needed to move on from Blue's

clues, but his viewers speculated wildly about his disappearance and even his suspected death.

It was a lot on young viewers, and it was a lot on Steve. He took a nearly 20-year-long hiatus from the

spotlight. We are now in a moment where attention is back on Steve, after he's re-emerged online

as a familiar patient guide through today's questions and obstacles. He's become known

for quiet, calming videos where he asks a question and waits as though listening for the viewer's

answer. And he has a new podcast with Lemonada called Alive, where he and guests explore big,

tough topics that we all face as we age and move through the world. I really did enjoy this

conversation as someone whose kids were a little too young for blues clues and had a lot to

catch up on. And also, as someone who values asking the tough questions rather than the easy ones,

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