Listen Now: Stephanie on Everything Happens with Kate Bowler

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Society & Culture

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🗓️ 17 April 2024

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Last Day listeners, today we're sharing with you Stephanie's conversation with Kate Bowler on her show Everything Happens. Kate is a professor at Duke University and someone who was diagnosed with stage 4 colon cancer in 2015 that had already metastasized. She is now in remission, and spends lots of time talking to other people about the fact that everything just, well, happens! To hear more of Everything Happens, head to: https://lemonada.lnk.to/everythinghappens

Today, we’re talking about tragicomedy. And isn’t that all of life? The absurdity. The horror. The laughter that somehow cuts through the most difficult of moments. Our guest today, Stephanie Wittles Wachs wrote a beautiful memoir called Everything is Horrible and Wonderful about the death of her brother to an accidental heroin overdose when he was 30 years old.

In this conversation, Kate and Stephanie discuss:

Loving someone with addiction
Grieving a person in public
Why it’s okay (and maybe necessary) to laugh in the midst of the worst moments
The 6th stage of grief—the manic-investigative stage

CW: mention of suicide, drug overdose, death of a sibling

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0:00.0	It's morning in New York.
0:06.2	Hey, everybody, I'm Mandy Patinkin.
0:08.7	And I'm Catherine Grady.
0:09.8	And we have a new podcast.
0:11.7	It's called Don't Listen to Us.
0:14.1	Many of you've asked for our advice.
0:16.1	Tell me, what is wrong with you people?
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0:20.2	Our Take It or Leave It Advice show is out every Wednesday,
0:23.6	premiering October 15th, a Lemonada Media Original.
0:33.2	Hi there, it's Julia Louis Dreyfuss.
0:35.8	This fall, my podcast, Wiser Than Me, is back for season three with even more wisdom straight from some legendary old ladies. These chickadees have a lot to teach us. Every word is a lesson in living unapologetically and focusing on the stuff that really matters. From Lemonada Media, Wiser Than Me, Season 3, out now.
0:57.6	Find it wherever you get your podcast.
1:04.3	Subscribe to Lemonada Premium in the Apple Podcasts app
1:08.2	and listen to every episode of Season 3 ad-free.
1:14.9	Lemonada
1:15.7	Hi, Last Day listeners.
1:20.8	Just dropping into your feed today to share a different kind of conversation between me and another human, but this time I'm the one in the hot seat.
1:31.1	A few months ago, I had the supreme honor and privilege to be a guest on another amazing show on Lemonada Slate, called Everything Happens with Kate Bowler.
1:40.3	And yes, that is everything happens, period, full stop, because Kate knows that shit happens,
1:47.8	and there is no reason, and we just have to live in the aftermath anyway.
1:51.9	How does she know this?
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