Alice, have you ever wondered why England haven't won the World Cup in 60 years?

Matt, too soon. Too soon.

Now, you might think it's because of superstar players or wags or bad managers, but actually, no.

It might have all begun with the CIA sabotaging the England team and in the process

laying a curse on English football.

That was actually going to be my first guess. Well, it would have been a good one because that is an actual theory. And it's a story, audible of investigated, in their new podcast, foul play. Would you please tell me some more about that? Well, Alice, 60 years ago, England were the best. And obviously, we won the World Cup in 1966. Our star player was a goalkeeper.

Some say the best goalkeeper ever, Gordon Banks.

And we were on track to win again at the following World Cup in Mexico, 1970.

But then, mysteriously, Gordon Banks fell ill before a crucial match,

and England crashed out and thus began the 60 years of hurt.

Right, mysteriously fell ill. It's also called a really bad hangover. England crashed out and thus began the 60 years of hurt. Right.

Mysteriously fell ill.

It's also called a really bad hangover.

And that is what many thought, including Gabriel Gatehouse, an investigative journalist,

when he was told that the CIA might have been behind Gordon Banks' sudden illness.

But then he began looking, and three years later, here he is with his new podcast

foul play. Here's an extract from episode one.

We'll hear the name of your grandfather, please.

My name's Ed, and I feel like I'm having a sort of out-of-body experience right now. Banks Gordon?

Yes.

Let me check.

I'm an ordinary dad of two small kids from Stoke-on-Trent in the English Midlands.

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