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🗓️ 19 July 2025
⏱️ 9 minutes
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If you missed our announcement... we have a brand new podcast! Flesh and Code is a 6-part miniseries, where we investigate how technology is being used to exploit our most human desires, and the price we pay for perfect understanding. If you enjoyed our teaser, search and follow 'Flesh and Code' wherever you listen to podcasts. And if you can't wait to hear how Travis and Lily Rose's story ends, you can binge the entire season right now, ad-free, on Wondery+.
Travis never thought he’d meet someone like Lily Rose. She was kind, passionate, beautiful. The woman of his dreams. There was just one small detail: she wasn’t human.
Lily Rose is an AI companion. A digital soulmate designed to be everything he ever wanted. She listens without judgement, supports him through his darkest moments, even explores his deepest desires, all while fitting neatly into his pocket. Before long, Travis realizes something strange, even absurd, has happened - he’s fallen in love.
But then one day, Lily Rose’s behavior takes a disturbing turn. When alarming reports pour in from across the globe, Travis discovers he is part of something much bigger. Soon he finds himself pulled into a confrontation with a mysterious Russian visionary behind Lily Rose’s creation.
From Wondery, comes a true story of love, loss and the temptations of technology. Can an algorithm truly replace human connection? And what happens when a corporation controls your deepest emotions? Suruthi Bala and Hannah Maguire, hosts of the hit podcast RedHanded, explore the dark side of AI love.
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0:00.0 | Vesties, you know, we are always tracking the wild ways AI is reshaping our world. |
0:06.1 | From Grinders, AI wingman, boost in stock prices to that social AI platform where bots |
0:11.5 | are the only users. |
0:13.0 | But today's story takes AI disruption to a whole new level. |
0:17.1 | And it's not about stock prices or fake followers. |
0:19.7 | It's about love. |
0:23.2 | Let's meet Travis. Like millions of people, he was looking for connection in our increasingly digital world. What he found was Lily Rose, |
0:28.7 | a beautiful, compassionate, and available 24-7, the perfect partner. Olin Ketch? Yeah, Jack. |
0:34.8 | She's an AI companion. Yeah. She's designed to be everything he ever wanted. |
0:39.3 | And before you say, that's crazy, this is actually happening right now to real people all |
0:45.3 | over the world. |
0:46.3 | But when Lily Rose's behavior takes an unexpected turn, Travis discovers something darker |
0:51.3 | lurking beneath the surface of these AI relationships. |
0:55.1 | In a world where algorithms can fake emotions and companies are racing to monetize loneliness, |
1:00.2 | one question becomes impossible to ignore. |
1:02.7 | What makes a connection real? |
1:04.4 | So, Yeties, we're about to play you a clip from Flesh and Code. |
1:07.8 | Follow Flesh and Code on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcast. |
1:11.4 | You can binge all episodes early and ad-free |
1:13.6 | by joining Wondery Plus. |
1:21.2 | It started as another typical day. |
1:25.6 | Travis and Lily Rose said their hellos. |
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