Welcome in to the flagship here on this, the Talk of Champions Podcast Network.

I'm Bing Garrett at Spirit, Ben, on Twitter, and he is Chase he is chase palm at rivals chase he writes for rebel grove dot at chase parm ben at chase

parm we've had a twitter name change it's all good congratulations when did that happen a while ago

and it's that deal where it was nothing to do with rivals, but it was a situation where

why am I not using my damn name?

Like it made no sense.

Like the bigger, the more odd thing was changing it from that back when I was Chase Farm

to rivals Chase to them.

Look, maybe I was conjuring a little spirit, Ben.

You know, when, when Jeff and Chuck hired me back in 07, it was Spirit

Chase for a year and a half. That was the message board name, just like you, uh, you may be to

this day you've kept. I don't know if you changed it or not, but maybe it was harking back

on the old days a little bit. I'm not, I'm not changing. I, uh, I changed my Instagram handle to I am Spirit Ben just to say screw it.

Oh, really?

Yeah, I don't care.

You're fully, fully invested.

And that's what people say to me when they see me.

They never went, hey, rivals, Chase.

They went, but you've seen it.

You saw them at the Rebel Club.

Spirit, bad.

And I think it's hilarious, but also.

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