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Awesome, so lots happened this week. But I think it's been top of mind for everyone. There's what there's been a lot of

feedback, controversy, discussion around is Dave Shapel's most recent special on Netflix. So, you know,

I watched the first 20 minutes and then actually had to step away. Well, I had to cut it off. I had to cut it off.

And then went back to it actually this afternoon and got through probably the last 30 minutes. I'm sure there's some that I missed.

But those first 20 minutes were actually pretty unbearable. Just first of all, it won't funny. Even when you are being your most offensive self, I think there's usually an incitfulness that can be gleaned.

But in this particular special, there was none of that. It was just like an utter defensiveness that I don't know. It just didn't sit well for so many reasons.

I think it's difficult for me because I'm a DC person. And Dave Shapel has been such a hero of DC.

But yeah, I'm interested to hear y'all's thoughts because even when he tries to be humanizing around the LGBTQ community, particularly trans folks, it just lands so wrong.

I mean, I also think I want to hear from y'all to just as black men because I think so much of this is the challenge of Dave Shapel kept, you know, he kept making the gay community, trans community synonymous with white people as if there were no people of color in the queer community.

And so it was always this like distinction between, you know, now white people are being white supremacists through the lens of being queer.

So I don't mean I'll just keep rambling. What have y'all been hearing? What did y'all think? Did you see it? All the things.

I definitely watched all of it. So this is a really good time to, for me, I guess in a weird way, like I guess I come out like another closet as somebody who definitely does not self identify as a cis man. Now that I've like done these things.

And but I love that you like, interested that way of saying to because I think in that moment when I was watching him perform it, I realized I occupied a really interesting space because I saw that he was actually seeing white people and seeing and seeing a certain type of white white,

white against performance or even solidarity with whiteness, even when he mentioned the two like muscular black dudes as like these these these are the type of people who I'm opposing or this or or LGBT,

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