LISK: A Pizza Crust and a Deleted File Ended Heuermann's Fight
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Tony Brueski
4.2 • 612 Ratings
🗓️ 3 April 2026
⏱️ 21 minutes
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Summary
Investigators surveilling Rex Heuermann recovered a pizza crust the accused Gilgo Beach Killer threw in the trash. It gave them a DNA match to hairs found on and near multiple LISK victims. On his basement hard drive, prosecutors say they found a deleted Word document — allegedly a blueprint for selecting victims, carrying out killings, and avoiding detection.
Eric Faddis — defense attorney and former felony prosecutor — joins me to dismantle both pieces of evidence with the clarity of someone who's handled cases from both chairs. Faddis explains what the Frye hearing that admitted whole genome sequencing actually looked like from inside the courtroom, why the Long Island Serial Killer defense challenged the DNA but not the planning document, and how forensic investigators recovered deleted files from over 350 electronic devices seized from Heuermann's home.
We trace the chain from garbage to the most significant DNA match in Gilgo Beach Killer history. We examine how a prosecutor uses alleged "Mindhunter" references in a planning document to establish premeditation. And Faddis gives a direct answer on which single piece of evidence he believes is the reason Rex Heuermann is reportedly pleading guilty.
This is the evidence breakdown the LISK case demands. Faddis brings the trial-level analysis most coverage has been missing.
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| 1:02.4 | This is Hidden Killers Live with Tony Bruske and Robin Drey. |
| 1:09.3 | Investigators pulled a deleted word document off Rex Huraman's hard drive, allegedly |
| 1:13.2 | created in around 2000, modified over several years with sections on supplies, problems, |
| 1:20.1 | disposal sites, and targets. |
| 1:22.1 | They matched his DNA to Harris found on and near multiple victims using a technology never |
| 1:27.2 | before admitted in a New York courtroom. |
| 1:29.4 | And they built the initial connection from a pizza crust. |
| 1:32.9 | He threw in the trash while being surveilled. |
| 1:35.5 | When you lay down those pieces side by side, the question isn't whether the prosecution had a case. |
| 1:41.7 | It's whether the defense ever even had a chance. |
| 1:44.5 | Eric Fattis is with us to help break down where this case is at and where it's going. |
| 1:51.7 | Prosecutors, they recovered that word document from Hurerman's basement, that hard drive |
| 1:55.9 | with the sections that allegedly outlined a lot of very specific things, things he tried to delete |
| 2:02.0 | off of it as well. When evidence like that lands on a prosecutor's desk, I mean, what does that |
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