Lisa Selin Davis, HOUSEWIFE: Why Women Still Do It All and What to Do Instead

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🗓️ 18 March 2024

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Zibby speaks with critically acclaimed essayist and journalist Lisa Selin Davis about HOUSEWIFE: Why Women Still Do It All and What to Do Instead, a deeply-researched, passionate, and vindicating book that masterfully dismantles misconceptions and encourages women to choose the best path for themselves. Lisa reflects on her fascination with the concept of the housewife and then delves into the challenges faced by modern-day mothers who have to balance work, family, and personal fulfillment. She highlights the importance of redefining traditional parenthood and embracing a more equitable distribution of labor—which will require affordable childcare and flexible work policies.

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0:00.0	Hi, I'm Zivie Owens, and I am the host of this podcast. Moms don't have time to read books.
0:08.1	I am also a newly minted USA Today bestselling author of the novel, Blank.
0:14.2	I've created a whole community of book lovers around this podcast, a publishing company, reading retreats, a bookstore, and more. Learn more
0:22.2	at Zivimedia.com or follow me on social at Zibby Owens or join the community at Zibby Readers.
0:31.4	Lisa Selen Davis is the author of Housewife, Why Women Still Do It All and What to Do Instead.
0:36.8	Lisa is the author also of Tomboy, The surprising history and future of girls who dared to be brilliant,
0:42.4	as well as two novels, Belly and Lost Stars.
0:45.2	She has written for The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Free Press, and many other publications.
0:50.3	Welcome, Lisa. Thank you so much for coming on moms. Don't have time to read books to discuss housewife, why women still do it all and what to do instead.
0:58.5	Thank you so much for having me. I'm really excited. I love this book, but I particularly love on both Instagram and in the book, all of these retro ads that you have everywhere. It's just amazing. I did this project
1:12.5	in college once where I had to like analyze ads of a certain type when talking about like same-sex
1:17.0	marriage or something else. Anyway, it's so interesting how popular culture really reflects some of these
1:22.7	things. So anyway, talk about that, but also just tell everybody what your whole book is about.
1:26.9	Okay. Well was a lot.
1:29.8	I'll start with the ads because actually you've just given me an idea, which is it would be great to have a coffee table book of ads directed at Housewives over decades because they go from, let's say in the in the 30s during the
1:49.1	depression where they want women to give up their jobs so the few jobs there are can go to men
1:54.2	so they tell housewives you know the patriotic thing to do is to give up your job and then in
2:00.0	the 40s the right thing for housewives to do is to do is to give up your job. And then in the 40s, the right thing for housewives to do is to
2:04.4	do men's jobs that the decade before they were told they couldn't and shouldn't do. And now that
2:11.1	their domestic skills actually apply in the munitions factory. And then in the 50s, it's back to housewife should stay home.
2:20.9	And here are all these amazing appliances that will make your life better and will please
2:28.8	your man and make you raise the right kinds of kids.
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