We see some good things going on too.

And I think you're right.

When you say 200 people a second, basically are Googling the question, is God real?

It makes you say, you know what?

There's a curiosity out there.

And in many ways, Generation Z is flat on its back with depression, with anxiety, with loneliness.

And when you're flat on your back, you know what you do?

You look up.

Really honored to welcome to Jesus over everything, the very astute award-winning legal editor of the Chicago Tribune, New York Times bestselling author, former journalist, former atheist-turned

teaching pastor. We're going to talk about that a little bit. And he's the

founding director of the Lee Strobel Center for Evangelism and Applied Apologetics at Colorado

Christian University. I also need to mention that he and his wife Leslie have been married for

more than 50 years. Biggest accomplishment, perhaps, yet. Welcome. Thank you. You know,

we had our 51st anniversary recently, and it's like

this kind of a letdown after 50. 50 is kind of a really big deal. And it's like 51. And they go,

well, what's the next big one? I hope that's not a letdown because I'm 51 years old.

So I feel like that's an accomplishment. But I get what you mean. 50 does feel like I made it to

that's a milestone. Yeah. So 51's like, well, I mean, one more. But I think it's, man, to be married

51 years, that's a big deal. Then, you know, it's better than ever. We were just talking about that

the other day, how fortunate we are to have found each other.

We met when we were 14 years old. She went home and told her mom, I met the boy I'm going to marry.

Really? Yeah, we got married young. I was 20. She was 19. In fact, we were married so young that at the wedding, instead of having champagne, because we were too young to be able to consume champagne,

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