Hi everyone, I'm Hilary Kerr, the co-founder and chief content officer of Who Up Wear.

And this is Second Life, a podcast spotlighting women who have truly inspiring careers.

We're talking about their work journeys, what they've learned from the process of setting

aside their doubts or fears, and what happens when they embark on their Second Life.

We'd like to start this episode with a couple of questions.

First, how do you find your next favorite designer, and how do you know that what your

wearing was made ethically and sustainably?

We ask these questions because our guest today is trying to make the discovery process easier.

Lisa Bueller is the founder and CEO of Lisa Says Gaugh, an e-commerce platform that aims

to be a home for artists of the fashion industry.

After a decade of working in fashion, Lisa observed the industry's toll on the environment,

as well as how hard it was for smaller labels to compete with big brands.

So she set out to create what she calls an anti-shop, meaning a place where independent design

thrives and all products are made ethically and sustainably.

Browsing the site, you'll see smaller designers like Paloma Wool and Rachel Antonov, and Lisa

also has her own label, which is also called Lisa Says Gaugh, which you will probably recognize,

especially her colorful, checkered pants that were all over Instagram in the beginning

of the pandemic.

But before she started her own e-commerce company, Lisa actually worked as an account executive

and then as a buyer, her nasty gal, where she was in charge of sourcing dresses, outerwear,

and sweaters.

In this episode, Lisa shares so many wonderful stories like how a big move inspired her

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