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So I'm really excited to be here today with Lisa Barr.

Lisa is the award-winning author of The Historical Thriller, Fugitive Colors.

Her most recent sexy betree is The Unbreakables.

Lisa was the editor of the Jerusalem Post, managing editor of today's Chicago woman, managing

editor of Moment magazine, and an editor-reporter for the Chicago Sun-Times.

She's also the creator of the popular parenting blog, Gorilla Warfare, and has been featured

on Good Morning America and today for her work as an author, journalist, and blogger. She earned her master's in journalism from the Medell School of Journalism at Northwestern and lives in the Chicago area with her husband and three children, all right? You got it. And a dog. And a dog. All right. So welcome, Lisa. Thanks for coming on. Thank you. Thanks for having me. This is so great to finally meet you in person.

You too. You too. I know. So many emails. So many emails. I love all of your postings. It's great. Yeah.

So can you tell listeners what The Unbreakables is about and what inspired you to write it?

Well, the Unbreakables is about a woman from Chicago whose husband and best friends end up betraying her.

And she loses everything, basically, in one fell swoop.

And she decides to go to Paris first to meet her daughter, who's also dealing with her own heartbreak. And once she gets

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