This is an I-Heart podcast.

Guaranteed human.

And we continue with our American stories, and up next a rule of law story which takes us to Memphis, Tennessee, and a liquor store owned by Doug and Mary Ketchum called Kimbrough Wine and Spirits.

Their quest to own their own business is a horror story of sorts, as it was necessary for the Supreme Court of the United States to make a ruling as to whether or not this

couple would be allowed to pursue their American dream. Let's take a listen.

Mary and I met in Salt Lake City, Utah, shortly after my wife passed away in 2009.

Well, Doug and I had a lot of similar friends.

We kind of knew about each other.

I knew who he was, but we'd never really talked or been close.

After my wife passed away, she opened up her house for our funeral memorial dinner and just

got to know her then.

That was actually really nice for me because I met all of Doug's family.

So when we finally did start dating and decided we liked each other and we're going

to get married, I already knew everybody and they already knew me.

And so there was no, you know, nobody was scared of anything.

Yeah.

We got married and Mary was working as a telephone technician, as a network technician.

She used to climb telephone poles, just to give you an idea how cool she is.

First, when I would go to people's houses and I'd say, you know, I'm the telephone man. just to give you an idea how cool she is.

First, when I would go to people's houses and I'd say, you know, I'm the telephone man.

It would be funny because you get this odd reaction from people.

They'd sit and look at me for a minute.

...