Lion's Den Episode 13: More PET/DOIS, Talking Arbitration Cites
From A to Arbitration
Corey L Walton
4.8 • 597 Ratings
🗓️ 24 July 2025
⏱️ 94 minutes
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Summary
Corey begins "The Lion's Den" by informing listeners that he will be pre-recording the upcoming "From A to Arbitration" episode due to his attendance at the Texas State Convention. He then emphasizes his desire to keep "The Lion's Den" episodes focused and relatively short, though he anticipates today's will be longer due to reading arbitration sites. He references last week's episode where he played a teleconference recording, highlighting the "disdain" and "incompetence" of upper management towards city letter carriers, and reiterating his long-held belief that they need to be more aggressive in their approach. Corey stresses the importance of education within the union and mentions that the incoming CLC leadership will bring a more militant and offensive approach.
Corey then dedicates the majority of the episode to reading and analyzing three arbitration sites. He explains that reading arbitration decisions is a crucial self-education tool, allowing one to understand management's arguments, the union's positions, and the arbitrators' decisions. The first case, from February 2009, deals with the Postal Service's use of DOIS (Delivery Operations Information System) projections to set carriers' daily office and street times, and whether this created a hostile work environment. Corey notes how management's arguments then are remarkably similar to current ones, particularly regarding PET and DOIS. He meticulously breaks down the union's and management's arguments, as well as the arbitrator's findings, highlighting how the misuse of DOIS primarily as a basis for setting leave and return times and the resulting stressful environment violated the M-39 handbook and related settlements.
The second case, from 2015, addresses similar issues of management using DOIS projections as the sole determinant of carriers' leaving times and the practice of announcing all mail is up before it's actually distributed, leading to undue stress. Corey reads the facts, the parties' positions, and the arbitrator's discussion and findings, emphasizing how these practices created an impossible situation for carriers. He draws parallels to the current use of PET and the denial of 3996s.
The third arbitration site, from 2019, focuses on the removal of a CCA for "unsatisfactory performance," specifically for exceeding projected times. Corey highlights how management failed to provide evidence of actual misconduct or time-wasting habits, instead relying solely on DOIS/PET projections. He points out that management did not conduct proper street observations or gather evidence like 4584s or 1838-Cs to support their claims. Corey concludes by reiterating the importance of these arbitration sites for understanding arguments, contractual language, and management's tactics, and promises to continue educating the membership on these critical issues.
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| 0:00.0 | Protect the flock. We rally in the Lions Den. |
| 0:05.0 | Shield to shield, the storm is thundering. |
| 0:11.0 | Unleash the roar, let the lions run. |
| 0:17.0 | Torch the night until the battles won. right welcome back to the lion's den wednesday edition finally back on track now |
| 0:28.3 | uh sunday's episode i'll have to do Saturday because we're going to Texas we'll be doing the |
| 0:35.3 | Texas state convention and so the CLC will be heading down there in force. |
| 0:40.6 | And so I cannot wait to meet everybody and see everybody in Texas, but I will do my episode for made arbitration on Saturday night. |
| 0:48.3 | Okay. |
| 0:49.4 | But today, what we're going to do, and I want to keep the Lions' Den episodes relatively short. |
| 0:56.2 | Unfortunately, I think it's going to be a little bit longer today because I'm going to do some reading. |
| 1:00.0 | But when from eight arbitration first started, all my episodes are relatively short. |
| 1:05.1 | To the point, very specific topics, and then you get into the longer episodes once I realized that my union |
| 1:13.3 | were quite fighting like I wanted them to and so it kind of took a turn but as far as the |
| 1:20.3 | lions den I do want to keep them relatively short now we've been doing six-day count stuff |
| 1:26.2 | route protection and last week you got to hear telecom You know, we've been doing six-day count stuff for out protection. |
| 1:33.3 | And last week, you got to hear a teleconference from some individuals. |
| 1:38.2 | I don't know who they were, but like I said, we found that on social media. |
| 1:43.0 | A lot of people had asked if I'd heard it, so edited the names and put it up. |
| 1:50.0 | But you got to see firsthand the disdain that upper management has for the city letter carrier. A lot of people were talking about it all week long, just the incompetence, the disgusting |
| 1:56.0 | incompetence and the complete wretchedness of those individuals that were on that teleconference. |
| 2:02.6 | You had supervisors that were obviously part of a vital few. |
| 2:06.7 | It sounded like that their stations weren't doing exactly as they were told. |
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