I don't care how smart you are you're not perfect you're not perfect and a lot of times there is somebody that you need to listen to that might have a better idea

I'm Carly Zaken. I'm Danielle Weisberg. Welcome to skim from the couch. This podcast is where we go deep on career advice from women who have lived it. From the good stuff like hiring and growing a team.

To the rough stuff like negotiating your salary and giving or getting hard feedback.

We started the skim from a couch,

so what better place to talk it all out

than where it began on a couch? Today Linda Johnson Rice joins me on Skimmed from the Couch. She is the

CEO of Johnson Publishing Company which published Ebony and Jet magazines.

Johnson Publishing helped give a voice to millions and chronicled the African American experience

across the country.

Linda has also served on numerous corporate and philanthropic boards, including the Chicago Public Library,

OmniCon Group, Grub Hub, Tesla, and the Smithsonian's National Museum of African American History and Culture.

Linda, thank you so much for coming on the show.

Welcome to Skimmed from the couch.

Thank you for having me, Carly, I'm excited to be here.

I'm so excited to have you here. So I think you know the first

question we start with the same one every show. Skim your resume for us. I most

certainly I'm happy to do that. I am still the CEO of Johnson Publishing Company

so that is great and it is that the founding company for Ebony and Jet magazines

and fashion fair cosmetics all started by my family.

And for better or for worse, I have never worked anyplace else.

And so I grew up in the business, grew up in the magazine business,

in the publishing business, and also in the magazine business and the publishing business and also in the beauty business

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