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Hey everybody, it's Neil from The Vergecast.

On this week's interview episode, we have Lena Kahn, who is someone I've been wanting

to talk to you for a long time.

So when Lena was a law student at Yale, she wrote this paper called Amazon's Antitrust

Paradox, which basically laid out the case for regulating Amazon.

And it said that even though Amazon lowers prices, you have to look at its effects on the

entire market of tech and services and say, hey, this is a monopoly.

She wrote this while she was a law student and it kicked off an entire wave of rethinking

antitrust policy in America.

She ended up at the Federal Trade Commission, working for Commissioner Rohit Chopra.

She's since left there and now she's a fellow at Columbia University and she's part of

the Open Market's Institute.

But she's someone who literally wrote a paper in law school that you can go read.

It's pinned on her Twitter account.

Go read it.

It's very interesting.

But she wrote this paper in law school and kicked off a huge rethink about how we treat

Amazon, Facebook, Google, Apple, Microsoft.

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