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The Welcome to Spirits podcast, a boosy dive into mythology, legends, and folklore.

Every week, we pour a drink and learn about a new story from around the world.

I'm Amanda.

And I'm Julia. And this is episode 301. Julia, what do we have in store today?

So Amanda, this week we are talking about something that I know is near and dear to your heart.

One of your favorite things when we're talking about urban legends and mythology. And that is liminal spaces. Oh, Julia, is it my birthday? I love it.

Amanda, what is it about liminal spaces that kind of scratches that good part of your brain?

Um, good question. I think that in literature, I am really obsessed with the crossing over.

That is such a fundamental part of storytelling of the hero's journey of mythologies.

It's somebody taken or forced outside the environment that they are used to and of their daily lives.

And those spaces and places that first step into the unknown is just so interesting it's like you know

the human being walking out of the cave the person you know stepping off onto the road to adventure

and there is a magic and a power in in the crossing and whether it's you know finding a book in a

library that teaches you how to be a wizard or stepping into a wardrobe and it takes you to

a magical world. Like that, I think, had such power over me as a kid who wanted to escape and find

somewhere different and loved the idea that if I could just kind of close my eyes and wish hard enough,

I could open my closet door and there would be some snow and Mr. Tumnus, you know, waiting there

behind it. Or that I could open a letter and it says something magical or open a book and there would be some snow and Mr. Tumnus, you know, waiting there behind it, or that I could

open a letter and it says something magical or open a book. And there are words and validation there

that I am more special than my circumstances tell me I am. And as an adult, just more and more,

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