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Psychology In Seattle Podcast

Limerence Deep Dive (Chapter 9 - The Cause)

Psychology In Seattle Podcast

Kirk Honda

Mental Health, Health & Fitness

4.61.2K Ratings

🗓️ 10 December 2025

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Dr Kirk Honda provides his long-awaited lecture on limerence. December 10, 2025

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00:00 Obsessive and abusive love
15:33 Are these examples of limerence?

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0:00.0

Hey, Deservent Listeners, this is the next chapter on my deep dive on limerance.

0:06.5

And my name is Dr. Kirk Honda.

0:08.1

I'm a therapist, and I'm also a professor.

0:10.1

And this is the Psychology in Seattle podcast and YouTube channel.

0:13.7

I wanted to start today's chapter by talking about another example from fiction that people often will say is a clear example of limerance.

0:24.6

And that is the character of Martha from the TV show on Netflix called Baby Rainier.

0:31.6

If you're familiar with that show, it was a very, very popular show one or two years ago. And online, you will hear

0:39.4

people say, oh, Martha from baby reindeer, she clearly is a good example of someone with limerance.

0:45.2

So let's evaluate that claim. So Martha does display some signs of limerence in that she was intensely attracted to someone from afar.

0:57.7

If you don't know the story, she is sort of a lonely person in the UK and she falls in love

1:06.0

with a bartender named Donnie.

1:08.0

And Donnie is this nice guy, kind of a pushover, kind of lonely himself, kind of struggling

1:13.6

himself a little bit.

1:15.3

But he doesn't like Martha, but he sees the good in her.

1:20.8

And since he's at work as a bartender and he doesn't really like his coworkers that much,

1:26.9

he entertains Martha's

1:30.1

crush by allowing her to dominate his time because she just talks and talks and

1:36.3

talks and never asks any questions. And so he feels sort of trapped having to listen to her, but also kind of, you know, the, the way that

1:48.2

Donnie is written, and it's written by the, by the actor who apparently lived through this

1:55.1

real scenario, I think we're led to believe that he kind of needs it a little bit. He gets a little bit of validation by Martha's crush on him.

2:07.7

And she also shows signs of limerance in that she will interpret small signals as clear indications of reciprocation from Donnie like the fact that he

2:20.1

listens to her is interpreted by her as clear evidence of reciprocation when

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