I think just acknowledging that some of these things are a bummer and B going to increase anxiety is a good thing because acknowledging triggers makes them easier to manage.

I feel much more hopeful than I do scared. Let it go.

Hi, welcome back, you guys.

That was one of the weirder weeks of my life.

How about you?

How are you holding up in all of this? Did you listen to last week's

episode? I kind of gave you a bit of a picture of where I was. I've learned quite a lot this week,

and I thought that I would check in with you guys, give you some likes and learns, which if you're

new here, it's a segment that I do where I share something that I've been liking, something

that I've been learning, but I've been learning and liking, honestly, quite a few things.

So also, today's episode is a bit of a variety show. I'm going to give you a clip from spiraling, the anxiety podcast that I co-host with Serena Wolf. And I think many of you listen to both podcasts. So if this is repetitive, feel free to skip on through. However, maybe some of you don't or maybe some of you don't have anxiety and that podcast, which is a humorous anxiety show, just isn't of interest to you and that's totally fine.

But I thought I would share this clip.

It's the first episode from the new season and it's just an episode that we recorded last week in the midst of

this where I kind of share about where I am physically and mentally and I keep saying on this

podcast that I was going to do an update about why I was traveling and how long I was traveling

and then what happened after my travel and why it was cut short and a pandemic update of sorts.

And I do that in that episode. So you'll hear a clip from that and just a conversation with

Serena and I about where we are in the midst of this. So in this episode, something very exciting.

Spirreling is an anxiety show, like I said, that really is just a conversation show between Serena and I.

But this year, we decided we wanted to have guests.

And with that, we were thinking about who we wanted to have on.

And I thought about Jen Gotch, who's someone I've followed her work and been really enamored by for years. And I didn't know if we

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