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We're talking real money.

It's the Talking Real Money podcast again.

Hi, everyone.

Don McDonald here, Tom Cock over there.

You there.

We're glad you are there, by the way.

And today, today we want to, once again, I think the biggest common denominator of this type of show is we hate, stop listening to the advice that's being given.

On this show?

No, not by us, by other people.

All right.

And one, lately, again, I love Morning Stars data.

I think their data is second to none.

I love their data, but they are trying to make themselves feel more valuable to the people who call themselves investors,

but really aren't.

The people who are wanting to get into the hottest thing.

There was a recent article that was the five best stocks to buy in 2025.

Well, this article I thought, well, this is interesting.

I got to look at this one. The headline is, wait a minute, I lost it. I've got it right here. Okay, read me the headline because I just went and looked up the fees.

The best index funds. The best index funds. I mean, who doesn't want to be in those, right? I want to be in the best. These are the index funds that earn the top rating from Morningstar.

Yeah. Funds and ETFs, by the way. Yeah. So you want me to go through these?

And ETFs. The best? How about the top five? Well, no, because I don't think that that, I don't think they're in order. Oh, I assume these are in order. I think they're in alphabetical order. I think you're right now that I assume that is so funny. Look at the list. Number one. Wow, I know that one. Yeah, actually. So what, what you, let's just talk about the companies. Yeah. Okay.. Yeah, okay. The mutual fund management companies that made the list. And the first company, we know well, but we were absolutely shocked by two things. Number one, that they called it an index fund because it's not an index fund. Number two, that the expense ratio is far less than I thought.

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