Like Bodies Through a Meat Grinder

Paper Ghosts: The Texas Teen Murders

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4.3 • 6K Ratings

🗓️ 26 November 2025

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Phelps dives deeper, trying to separate fact from rumor, while new suspects come into play—and a third teen murder rocks the town of Weatherford. But could a noted serial killer be responsible for Vincent and Shelly’s murders?

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0:00.0	This is an IHeart podcast.
0:02.3	Guaranteed human.
0:14.1	Parker County, Texas is one of those places where you can't get away from the people you hurt.
0:21.7	The type of claustrophobic atmosphere that comes of such a tight-knit community where
0:27.0	everybody knows everybody's business where a side-long glance in the grocery
0:32.6	store or a bless your heart carries more weight than outsiders might register.
0:39.2	And for families at the heart of this murder case,
0:43.0	as time passed and law enforcement was no closer to solving Vincent and Shelley's murders,
0:49.3	it all seemed to enhance the pain both families felt.
1:08.5	Did you and Ronnie ever get with Vincent's family and talk about stuff?
1:10.1	No. What happened between the two of you, anything?
1:14.1	Okay.
1:15.4	One day I had been to the police station, and then I came over to Debbie's, which she was my
1:22.5	bluebird assistant.
1:23.7	She was the lady that the girl stayed with when we left.
1:28.8	So for some reason, they show up.
1:32.1	Glad to meet you.
1:33.2	And the first thing the mama says to me is Shelly had a cloud of death over her.
1:38.3	What?
1:39.4	What?
1:40.7	She said, Shelly had a cloud, has always had a cloud of death over her.
1:45.0	When she would come to our home, she would have that dark cloud of death over her.
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