From KCRW, this is Nachter.

From KCRW, this is Nachter. It's the worst suffering, not knowing where your child is in the middle of the night.

It really, it's, it's indescribable, you can't really put words to it,

that's why it's so hard to talk about.

We can probably most of us imagine, even if our kids are little. Maybe you give a curfew as a

teen and then they were an hour too late. Like that would be hard, right? So it's like

that times infinity. It's just, because if you know they're actually,

they're out there and they really actually are doing something

life threatening to themselves or putting themselves

in situations with people that aren't safe or yeah it's really bad.

It's really bad.

My daughter was an intravenous drug user and from her 16th birthday to 17th birthday I actually didn't

live with her very much during that whole year.

So she was either missing, I would call it,

where she was out using drugs.

And I wouldn't know where she was or she was hospitalized or she'd be getting treatment.

I have so many sort of like angel stories like there was a young man and he asked me

how's your daughter doing he's talking about my older daughter and he says I worked at the pizza place on

Telegraph. He told me that he saw my daughter up there and he knew what was happening and he says after I got off work it was very late and I would drive all around till I find her and I'd give her pizza.

And sometimes I couldn't find her so I would just go to other people and go,

do you know this?

And if they knew her, I would give them the pizza and say,

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