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Teenager Therapy

life without a college degree (and how to build wealth & a career without one)

Teenager Therapy

Astrolescence & Joy Coalition

Society & Culture

4.84.3K Ratings

🗓️ 7 February 2025

⏱️ 103 minutes

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Summary

will you be forever broke and careerless if you don’t go to college? turns out you’ll probably be okay. in this episode we talk about the alternative options to a financially stable career that doesn’t require a 4 year degree because rising college costs, doubts about the payoff, and selective admissions are causing many to reconsider traditional higher education paths. we talk with people that have made a living without a degree and ask about how they did it, if they have any regrets and then later bring on david deming as an expert who can guide us on the value of a college degree.  so maybe the key to a good life isn’t a business degree but simply a career as a plumber or IT worker. life gets so much simpler (and less expensive) if you realize that early lol Follow GrownKid on Instagram: @Grownk1d JOIN OUR SOCIAL CLUB IN LOS ANGELES: https://form.typeform.com/to/eBSho4lE About Our Partners: GrownKid is made possible by the Schultz Family Foundation, dedicated to helping young people unlock their full potential and successfully navigate to fulfilling careers. GrownKid is made in partnership with Joy Coalition where purpose driven content meets powerful storytelling. From 13 reasons Why to unprisoned, Joy Coalition projects are made to bridge generations and drive groundbreaking conversations.   Interested in a career in mental health? Check out the Youth Mental Health Corps – a new program created by the Schultz Family Foundation, Pinterest and AmeriCorps - where anyone with a high school degree can gain experience, skills, and a credential during a year of paid service in the mental health field. Learn more at youthmentalhealthcorps.org Featured Guests: David Deming: https://www.daviddeming.com/ –  David Deming is the Isabelle and Scott Black Professor of Political Economy at the Harvard Kennedy School. Christopher Zara: https://christopherzara.com/about/ – Christopher Zara is an author and journalist at Fast Company. dave baldwin: @davebaldwin_ - a trade worker and musician under the name Vineland. Dave is the property manager for multiple a-list celebrities in Hollywood and beyond. Amanda Southworth: @am.nda - Amanda Southworth dropped out of high school at 16 and now has a career in internet and tech safety. Marco Gudino: Chose not to attend college due to concerns about financial debt and now works as an office administrative assistant.  SOCIAL LINKS: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/grownk1d/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@grownkid Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3C6oJYFLbesR2ELhXIk7dz?si=6acdcba455dc4323 Website: grownkid.com Resources: Career Village: 'Reddit for careers'. Anyone can head to the site, ask any career-related question, and get crowdsourced answers from real, verified professionals. CareerVillage.org's mission is to democratize access to career information and advice for underrepresented people. Code Path: CodePath is reprogramming higher education to create the most diverse generation of engineers, CTOs, and founders. They deliver industry-vetted courses and career support centered on the needs of Black, Latino/a, Indigenous, and low-income students. Skill Up: SkillUp is a nonprofit that enables job seekers to break into new careers regardless of their degree-holding status. They focus on careers that pay a living wage, feature high-quality trainings with low risk and high returns, and are dedicated to educating how to achieve promising career paths. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Today's episode is for the grown kids who don't think going $300,000 into debt for a college degree is a good idea.

0:07.9

The ones that want to find success through other means, maybe trade work, and the ones that want to shape their own path to wealth in a career.

0:16.0

So we'll be exploring the question, how do you build wealth in a career without a college degree?

0:21.6

To find that out, we'll be exploring if college actually guarantees you a good life, what other

0:25.9

options are besides college, and just how to build your career in general.

0:30.0

To guide us along, we'll be joined by lots of incredible people who built both blue collar

0:35.1

and white collar careers without a college degree, including a plumber

0:39.0

that rose the ranks and is now doing property management for A-list celebrities and other

0:44.6

high-profile clients. A 21-year-old who decided not to go to school because he was scared

0:49.1

of being in debt. A 22-year-old who dropped out of high school to pursue software and app development,

0:54.9

and also Christopher Zara, who recently published a book called Uneducated,

0:58.8

which documents his experience, living life, and building a career without a college degree.

1:03.2

And finally, our expert guest who will make us make sense of everything, is David Deming,

1:07.6

who's an American economist and a professor of public policy at the Harvard Kennedy School and a professor of education and economics at the Harvard Graduate School of Education, whose research focuses on higher education, economic inequality, skills, technology, and the future of the labor market. So, let's get into the episode.

1:37.0

Hi, everyone.

1:38.2

Welcome to Grown Kid.

1:38.9

I'm Gail.

1:39.8

And I'm Kayla.

1:43.8

And we're just 2.20-year-olds who feel like grown kids and don't really know where our life is going or if we're even prepared for it or let alone how to plan for it.

1:49.0

So that's why we decided to make this show, a podcast where we'll be exploring the career and life issues that we're experiencing as we transition from being teenagers to young adults.

1:59.0

And throughout the episodes, we'll basically help you get your shit together by talking

2:02.6

with experts and researchers who will give us actual advice and tips to just help us navigate

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