Hello, everyone. You're listening to Family Talk, the radio broadcasting ministry of the James

Dobson Family Institute. I'm Dr. James Dobson, and thank you for joining us for this program.

Well, welcome to Family Talk. I'm Roger Marsh. In most marriages, one spouse tends to be tidier,

while the other is a bit less aware of clutter. That's a polite way, of course, of saying that one's messy

and the other one's clean. Maybe one person leaves dishes in the sink until the end of the day,

while their spouse prefers to load the dishwasher as soon as those dishes are

dirty. Living with a chronically disorganized mate sparks frustration and conflict between two

otherwise compatible people, and that's why on today's edition of Dr. James Dobson's family

talk, we're bringing you a classic conversation featuring Sandra Felton, a self-proclaimed

messy who spent years figuring out how to get and keep her house in order.

Sandra is the founder of Messies Anonymous, a group dedicated to bringing harmony into homes by understanding and addressing the messy mindset.

She's the author of over 20 books, including The Messies Manual and Organizing Magic, one of my favorite titles,

Messy No More. So whether you're the cause of household chaos or the frustrated spouse

trying to get it back in order, today's program offers perspective and practical help.

Here's Dr. James Dobson now to introduce his guest Sandra Felton on this classic edition of Family Talk.

You must know something that the rest of the world is only discovering, and that is that

there are an awful lot of people out there who have this problem.

Right. I get letters every day from people who are either. and that is that there are an awful lot of people out there who have this problem.

Right. I get letters every day from people who are either messy and struggling to overcome it and want more help,

or now that my new book is out, from people who live with messies. But of course, I got people who live with messies writing to me before.

And that's one reason why I wrote the book, because they had their needs too. Their houses were messy, but not because they were making them that way.

They were just living with somebody who was so messy that they simply could not overcome it, you know?

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