And the If you do enough philosophy as we do in this work, eventually you reach a point after a long while of doing it, after a lot of confusion and a lot of questioning and a lot of scratching your head

trying to get the answers but really not being able to get clear straightforward

answers you come to the point where you wonder, well what's the point?

Is there even any point to doing this work?

It just all seems like a mind game. It all seems like mental masturbation. It all seems like

it doesn't have any practical purpose and that I'm just wasting my time.

Have you gotten to that point yet

in your own philosophical investigations?

A lot of times people will leave these kinds of comments

under some of my more philosophical metaphysical type of episodes.

Well, they will say, okay, Leo, so yeah, you're talking about this thing here and that esoteric thing there and this abstraction here and this principle there and you're

talking about how reality is not real and it's imaginary in God and whatever else but what's the point?

This all sounds like word games and mind games. But that is the point. The point of philosophy is precisely to realize that reality is just a mind game.

It's all a mind game. But be careful because people don't appreciate what that means. And what I want to

communicate to you, the only thing I'm trying to communicate to you in this episode is just the significance of what that means.

It's much more profound than people realize.

Because people also use this as an excuse or as a way to hand wave away philosophical investigation.

A lot of people don't even begin philosophical investigation because they just short-circuited by saying, oh well it's all just a mind game.

Yes, but you don't really know that.

You're short circuiting the process and you have to be careful about that because the

process teaches you things you wouldn't otherwise understand about how your game, how your mind

plays these games. For example, I was into philosophical questioning since I was

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