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The Gist

Life Is Like Pachinko

The Gist

Peach Fish Productions

Daily News, News

4.53.7K Ratings

🗓️ 1 December 2017

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

There hadn't been an English-language novel about ethnic Koreans living in Japan until this year's Pachinko. Author Min Jin Lee chalks it up to the complicated history of the Korean Japanese. They were colonized by Japan, they were forced or compelled to migrate, and they were targets of anti-Korean discrimination. But Lee was surprised to find that many Korean Japanese don't see themselves as victims of racism. "They would actually see it as, culturally, their norm," says Lee. "I think it's very hurtful to think that you're hated all the time, so you have to think of the story that you can live with."  In the Spiel, are President Trump's tweets worse than President Nixon's paranoia? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

The following content is explicit.

0:06.7

It's Thursday, November 30th, 2017, from Slate It's the Gist I'm Mike Pesca,

0:11.2

right about Matt Lauer, now I need a shower.

0:14.1

Lauer reportedly preyed upon many women who worked for him and near him at NBC.

0:20.0

Still, when news broke, we got this, this in-memorium type segment,

0:25.6

Unmourning Joe.

0:26.7

Here was Willie Geist saying his heart was with the accuser, who didn't know,

0:30.6

but also this was where his heart was.

0:32.5

It's with the staff of the Today Show that's worked with Matt for almost 25 years

0:37.0

and considered him a friend, and he is the leader over there.

0:40.4

You know, he is in charge, so I'm thinking about all my friends across the street

0:45.0

and my thoughts, of course, are with Matt. He's been a friend.

0:48.8

He's been a mentor. He's been a guy you could watch,

0:52.7

a guy who led by his example on the set, the way he treated the crew,

0:57.6

the way he knew everybody's name, the class and dignity he carried himself with.

1:02.0

The class and dignity of all those times he chose not to expose his genitals to me,

1:06.7

like he reportedly did to younger females on the staff, and the button,

1:11.2

you know about the button, right?

1:12.6

The button installed at Matt Lauer's desk, so he could lock the door remotely

1:17.6

after someone walked in.

1:19.6

I have to say, I know a lot was made about this detail, and it seems bad,

1:23.7

but I didn't get it.

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