Life in the West Bank with Sari Bashi

Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

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🗓️ 14 November 2023

⏱️ 55 minutes

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It’s been over a month since Hamas' rampage in Southern Israel killed over a thousand Israeli men, women and children, and over a month of Israel's war against Hamas in Gaza that has claimed 10,000 lives, according to the Gaza Health Ministry. In this episode, we’re focusing on the precipitating factors that led to the conflict and issues that continue to impede a resolution. Sari Bashi, who lives in the West Bank and is married to a Palestinian, has a unique perspective as a Jewish woman with U.S.-Israeli citizenship, living in a household that transcends the conflict. Bashi is the program director at Human Rights Watch, an author and is the co-founder of Gisha Access, an Israeli NGO whose goal is to protect the freedom of movement of Palestinians, especially Gaza residents. She joins WITHpod to discuss what the year before the war looked like, violations of international laws, the devastating impact on civilians, calls for countries to suspend military aid and more.

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0:00.0	Nothing justifies targeting or war crimes against civilians. I am the first person to point to the root causes of the
0:14.4	current violence. Nothing justifies the attack on Israeli civilians on
0:17.8	October 7th and that does not justify the deliberate targeting of
0:22.1	civilians through collective punishment and
0:24.1	deliberately impeding humanitarian relief that the Israeli military is doing.
0:29.6	Hello and welcome to why is this happening with me your host Chris Hayes.
0:37.0	I'm speaking to you about a month a little more than a month after the Hamas terrorist
0:46.5	attack in southern Israel, which happened on October 7th when somewhere around 1500 Hamas fighters came over and slaughtered.
0:54.8	First encountered Israeli defense forces overran them and proceeded to
0:59.3	systematically slaughter men, women, and children in the areas around the Gaza border and a variety of kibbutzas in the town of Surat.
1:08.0	Methodically, with sort of almost unfathomable barbarity and atrocity and took 240 hostage, brought
1:16.2	them back to Gaza.
1:18.2	Beginning basically a day after that, I think even that night, Israel began a aerial bombardment
1:24.4	campaign of Gaza that is now extended for a month and has had a ground
1:27.8	incursion that's gone on for about three or four days at this point. When you
1:32.2	hear this, it's unclear what the
1:33.5	fate of that world be except to say that it is the most brutal civilian toll of
1:38.5	warfare of the 21st century I think is pretty much not even controversial at this point. The Gaza Health Ministry says 10,000
1:46.7	Gazans have died. Almost immediately upon the October 7th attack, almost all electricity, water, fuel was cut off from Gaza.
1:55.6	There's been some trucks that have gotten through, there's some back and forth about some amount of electricity,
2:00.3	but really basically none. The civilian population is basically under siege. I mean that
2:05.9	word we use so much is like a cliche and metaphor but it actually has like historical roots
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