“Life During Wartime Language: Talking with a former white nationalist turned SJW”

Another Day with Ana Marie Cox

Ana Marie Cox and Open Mike Eagle

News, Arts, Performing Arts, Business, Society & Culture, Politics

4.6 • 6.4K Ratings

🗓️ 2 November 2018

⏱️ 69 minutes

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This week Ana Marie Cox (@anamariecox) talked with journalist Eli Saslow (@elisaslow) and Derek Black (@RDerekBlack) about Derek Black’s transformation from a white nationalist to an antiracist activist. They began with current news and what Trump means for the rise of white nationalism into everyday life. Derek then talked about his background growing up as a white nationalist, and what it took for him to change his ideology. They continued with mistakes made by the media and within American culture that contributed to the normalization of white supremacy. They ended with a discussion of what it takes to change someone’s mind, and a sense of hope that it is possible. Thanks to our sponsors! This episode of With Friends Like These is brought to you by Ritual. Whether you’re living life—or creating it—why not add some good looking science into your daily routine? Visit ritual.com/ FRIENDS to start your ritual today With Stamps.com you can access all the amazing services of the Post Office, right from your desk, 24/7, when it’s convenient for YOU. Go to Stamps.com, before you do anything else, click on the Radio Microphone at the TOP of the homepage and type in FRIENDS. With Friends Like These is brought to you by the upcoming film The Front Runner, from Oscar-nominated director Jason Reitman who brought us Thank You For Smoking, Juno, and Up In The Air. Two things to do November 6th—vote! And see The Front Runner. Text FRONT RUNNER to 26797 to find your nearest polling place and buy your tickets to see The Front Runner. Most bedding is marked up as much as 300%. But by taking the middleman out of the equation and delivering directly to the customer, Brooklinen is able to give you luxury sheets without that luxury markup. Get $20 off AND free shipping when you use promo code [friends] at Brooklinen.com. Whatever you love to do, there’s a pair of Bombas that’ll add comfort to your life as you do it. They were created for runners, power walkers, power loungers, low-key fashionistas, snowboarders, business sharks, business casual sharks, people who prefer the outdoors, Netflix-and-chill-ers, and overall lovers of everyday comfort. If you go to bombas.com/FRIENDS and enter FRIENDS at checkout you’ll get 20% off your first order.

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