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The Hard Way With Joe De Sena

Life After the Uniform: Chase Chewning on Discipline Without Orders

The Hard Way With Joe De Sena

Spartan Races

Self-improvement, Health & Fitness, Education

4.8874 Ratings

🗓️ 24 February 2026

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Most people don't fall apart overnight. They drift when structure disappears.
In this episode, former U.S. Army veteran, health and wellness entrepreneur, and podcast host Chase Chewning joins Joe De Sena to break down what happens when identity, purpose, and community are stripped away. Chase lays out the hard lessons from medical discharge, career-ending injury, and loss, and how discipline, ownership, and community rebuild momentum. This is a blunt conversation about resilience, daily structure, and choosing responsibility when comfort is easier. Listeners will learn how to reset after loss, why discipline beats mindset, and how to move forward without excuses.
 
Things You Will Learn:
  • How to rebuild identity after injury, loss, or a forced reset
  • Why community is required for resilience and long-term performance
  • How ownership replaces motivation and keeps you moving
Tools & Frameworks Covered:
  • Ever Forward rule: move despite pain and uncertainty
  • Community as structure: accountability when discipline slips
  • Ownership principle: take responsibility, no matter the circumstance
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Chase Chewning's life is a story of breaking down and rebuilding stronger. After serving six years in the U.S. Army and enduring devastating injuries that left him learning to walk twice, Chase transformed pain into purpose. 
 
Today, through his hit show Ever Forward Radio and his work in wellness and podcast education, he shares hard-earned lessons on resilience, mindset, and the power of turning struggle into strength.
 
Connect to Chase:
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@everforwardradio
 

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The Hard Way Podcast With Joe De Sena, Hosted by Joe De Sena, founder and CEO of Spartan, this podcast delves into the principles of resilience, discipline, and the Spartan mindset. De Sena's journey from building a multimillion-dollar pool cleaning business in his teens to establishing a successful Wall Street trading firm showcases his entrepreneurial spirit. In 2001, he transitioned from finance to operate an organic farm in Pittsfield, Vermont, where his passion for endurance events like ultramarathons and adventure races flourished. This led to the creation of Spartan, aiming to inspire individuals to embrace challenges and push their limits.

Transcript

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0:00.0

You are exactly where you're supposed to be.

0:02.0

It's a phrase that sounds nice, but it is one that I come back to when things are at their worst.

0:09.0

If I go, I'm exactly where I'm supposed to be, then there has to be a reason for this.

0:14.0

Then what can I do to how can I take advantage of this situation, no matter how bad it seems?

0:19.0

And so if you take ownership, then you're

0:21.4

taking responsibility. And it might not be your fault for where you're at, but it damn sure is

0:25.5

your responsibility. Spartans, listen up. We need to sleep better. Was it how do you sleep better? Never

0:30.9

thought about before. And so I met Jack. I met Ascentia. Pay attention to the mattress to sleep on

0:36.5

because it's loaded with chemicals.

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0:45.3

Less inflammation, faster bounce back. No toxins. No EMFs. No BS.

0:51.3

My buddy Jack, over at Ascentia, he's kind enough to give us a code for the Spartan community. That's Deca, that's tough money of all of us. Use Spartan 25, get a discount, prioritize your sleep, so you can sleep faster. You can do more burpees. You can train more. You can get healthier. When you sleep well, you live well. Joe Descena here, CEO, founder of Spartan, host of the Hardway Podcast, got my buddy Chase tuning on. He's a Army vet. He's a podcast host. He's a health and wellness entrepreneur and soon-to-be author. Welcome aboard, sir. Joe, my pleasure, man. Thank you so much for having me. Yeah, soon to be author. Thanks for the

1:27.8

reminder about that. I owe my literary agents and pages. Father was in the Army. So was that always on your mind growing up, thinking that's what you're going to do? It was definitely what I saw. And I think as as a new dad myself now, I have an eight-month-old son, and I'm already seeing the way that he just watches me, already

1:45.4

beginning to emulate me. And so it makes me reflect back on, you know, how much of my life

1:50.5

was my choice versus was I just mirroring what I saw. And that was definitely what I knew. And I,

1:56.9

what I saw in my father, I loved and I emulated. And he was in the National Guard for a bit, you know, basically part-time army before going

2:05.3

active duty, full-time military.

2:08.0

And I just loved what I saw.

2:10.1

You know, it's this big burly man, just doing cool outdoor shit all the time.

2:14.9

Yeah, actually while he was in the National Guard, he was my Boy Scout

2:17.8

troop leader. And there's nothing cooler than your dad, who is a military guy coming back

2:23.3

after some field training, bringing all of his like war toys and field equipment and taking

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