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We brought ourselves to the threshold of true climate catastrophe in the time span of a single generation.

We now have about the time of a single generation to avoid unimaginable suffering and we are the ones writing that story.

Hello. Welcome to the Ezra Klein show on the Vox Media Podcast Network.

I am not Ezra Klein. In fact, my name is David Roberts. I am a staff writer here at Vox. I cover energy and climate change and the politics thereof.

Our guest is David Wallace Wells, the author of a new book on climate change called the Uninhabitable Earth Life After Warming.

I hesitate to kick off my podcast career with a moldy cliche, but if you read only one book on global warming, make it this book.

It is a painful and sometimes emotional read. I had to put it down a few times, walk my dog, hug my kids, but every word feels necessary.

I loved my conversation with the other David. We talked about exactly what it means that climate change is worse than you think in what's in store for us.

We talked about the dark blunt tone of his writing, the lack of sort of canned and scripted hope and the sort of tension that's caused among the climate communications and climate science crowd.

We talked about US climate politics and all their glorious and ongoing dysfunction. Finally, we talked about how climate might in the 21st century shape our imaginations, our art, our sense of history, our sense of identity, the stories we tell our children about what kind of world they live in.

It was as any conversation on this subject and not always the most uplifting, but it was very interesting. I thought and I think you'll really enjoy it as always.

You can email the show at as reclined show at box.com here without further ado is David Wallace Wells.

David Wallace Wells, welcome to the podcast.

Thanks so much. It's great to be here and talking to you in particular.

Just I have to ask David, have you read the famed Dr. Sioux's story too many days?

I can't say that I have, but I have something that tells me I know the meaning already.

I thought that was our anthem. Well, you should check it out. I have occasion to think about it quite frequently.

My mom tells me that in the nursery school where she put me that they were. I think that stat is there were six kids in my class and four of them were named David.

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