Our argument is not that cars by themselves are bad technology, because you can sort of

be labeled as a Luddite for this kind of stuff, but that we have over deployed them in a way

that is completely harmful to our own lives, to the planet, to political cohesion to society in

general, and that if you look around the world at the places that we think are the best places,

they usually have not no cars, but they've just put cars in their proper place.

I'm not saying you need to give up your car, but imagine that you didn't have to

drive everywhere. You didn't always have to be in a car. Think about what that would be like

to live in a place where you could walk or bike or take a bus or whatever with yourself, your kids,

and it would be fine, and you wouldn't have to get into that car because I think a lot of people are perceiving the car as a burden a lot of the time.

Hello, and welcome. Why is this happening?

We'll be your host, Chris Hayes.

This weekend, I did the MSNBC live event in New York, which was great, got to meet a lot of folks, also got to hang out with some of my colleagues, including the great Jacob Soberoff,

who was a good buddy of mine and someone I really like. And he and I were reminiscing about

the first time that we ever spent time together, which was we were both, like, in he and I were reminiscing about the first time that we ever spent time together,

which was we were both like in 2017 basically chasing Hurricane Irma, which made landfalls

a category five in Florida on the Gulf Coast. And he and I both ended up in Naples, Florida,

and ended up staying in the same hotel, which was this one that we sort of found through weird

back channels. And we were remembering this. And one of the things that has always struck me about that was the first time I'd ever been in the aftermath of like a really big catastrophic storm.

And there's two things that become real evident in the wake of a storm like that, which is what are the essential technologies upon which

our life functions? And it becomes very clear immediately that the two, in a place like the Gulf

Coast of Florida, is electricity, right? So electricity goes out and you know, air conditioning,

elevators don't work in buildings, obviously people running off generators, like, and cars.

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