The Trump White House is at war against working class immigrant families here in the United States

and preparing to go to war against the people of Venezuela.

We need a new system. We need a new society.

We need to demand that which may have sounded impossible even a few weeks ago,

but is not

only realizable, but an imperative necessity. Welcome to the Socialist Program. I'm your host, Brian Becker.

Today we're talking with Claudia de la Cruz. Claudia was the 2024 presidential candidate of the Party for Socialism and Liberation.

She's also the executive director of IFCO.

She's a lifelong community organizer and popular educator.

Claudia, welcome.

Thank you for having you, Brian.

I said it's a war against immigrant

families. It certainly is. Right now, the National Guard from Texas has arrived in Illinois,

the governor of Illinois. Pritzker says it's nothing short of a Trump-ordered invasion of the

state of Illinois. But this is a war at home. That's definitely war at home.

And I think it's important to understand what conditions are being created.

It is a war zone.

They talk about going to save the community from a war zone,

but they are creating the condition of hostility, of violence,

insecurity that they are claiming that they want to crush. And in so many ways,

it's terrorizing not only immigrant working class communities, it's terrorizing communities as a whole.

Working class black families, working class white families, because our families are mixed

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