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🗓️ 15 July 2021
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When I was a kid I learned about the Alamo. It’s 1836. Houston said to Travis, fortify the Alamo. Volunteers came from across the continent to fight and die for the dream of a free and independent Texas.
Like the Ballad said, One hundred and eighty five holding back five thousand.
In the southern part of Texas, near the town of San Antone, like a statue on his pinto rides a cowboy all alone. And he sees the cattle grazing where a century before Santa Anna’s guns were blazing and the cannons used to roar. And his eyes turn sorta misty and his heart begins to glow and he takes his hat off slowly. To the men of the Alamo. To the thirteen days of glory at the siege of Alamo.
What a load of bullshit.
The Alamo and its effect on Texas, the country, and Phil Collins, is the subject of the new book Forget the Alamo: The Rise and Fall of An American Myth. Two of its three authors are here with me today, Bryan Burrough and Chris Tomlinson. They’re both writers and they’re both from Texas, so you can be sure that what you’re about to hear is the gospel truth.
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1:17.0 | episode today. So when I was a kid I learned about the Alamo. It's 1836 Houston said to Travis, fortify it. |
1:25.2 | Volunteers came from across the continent to fight and die for the dream of a free and |
1:30.1 | independent Texas. The ballad said 185 holding back 5,000, which is not quite the truth. |
1:40.8 | The history of the Alamo is much more fascinating than the myth that I was led to believe as a kid and it's also the subject of a wonderful new book called Forget the Alamo, the Rise and Fall of an American myth. |
1:54.0 | Two of its free authors are here with me today, Brian Burrow and Chris Tomlinson. |
1:59.0 | They're both writers and they're both from Texas so you can be sure that what you're about to hear is the |
2:04.0 | gospel truth. We're going to talk today about the Alamo, its effects on Texas, the |
2:08.9 | country, and what Phil Collins has to do with all of it. |
2:13.7 | Gentlemen, thank you so much for joining me today. |
2:16.8 | Thanks for having us. |
2:18.0 | Yeah, good to be here. |
2:19.4 | All right, so for people listening |
2:21.6 | who are not Texans, can you explain what Texas Pride is and what |
2:27.2 | part the Alamo plays in that? Because I really think that's foundational to this story. This is Brian. I guess I'll lead off it's not Texas pride Matthew it is what's been |
2:39.7 | often called Texas exceptionalism. |
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