Lie to Me, Baby
Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak
Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak
4.8 • 2K Ratings
🗓️ 17 June 2025
⏱️ 52 minutes
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Summary
Scrolling during sex. The novelty of rice and pasta in a drawer. The four-hour facial. Old writerly Novak reemerges. Tits or gossip for a mere fifty bucks. Maintaining mood across centuries. A bespoke app. Praying for more. Unwashed throws.
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| 0:00.0 | Two best friends both alike in dignity. |
| 0:05.0 | Nurturing phantoms and courting the muse. |
| 0:08.0 | The hag divines when something must die. |
| 0:10.0 | Yes, that was Pug. |
| 0:11.0 | But this is huge. |
| 0:13.0 | The ego loves to seek, but never to find. |
| 0:16.0 | It was Berlant and Novak the whole time. |
| 0:19.0 | Hi. Hi. |
| 0:22.0 | Hi. |
| 0:23.7 | How's it going? |
| 0:29.5 | You know, I'm in New York City, and it's absolutely transformative to be here. Okay, I felt that. |
| 0:30.0 | I was there the other day. |
| 0:30.8 | This morning, woke up, woke up to literally Hong Kong, fuck you ass classic band and then and then we watched like a 10 no loved it watched like a 10 minute saga unfold of these two men screamed call the fucking cops you know doing this whole thing and it's been amazing starting the mornings with my partner reading to me. Oh wow. Reading Wally |
| 0:56.3 | Wallace-Shahn stories can't recommend. Oh wow. I'm sorry essays. Yeah. They're short so it's like a |
| 1:02.3 | perfect. Is that the white book? Yeah. It's it's it's like so gorgeous. Everyone needs to get it. Yeah. |
| 1:09.0 | It's like it's a thin white book and it's great book because you can, yeah, it's like you can just start the morning with this with a little essay. See, I tried to pitch this to an editor going short form. The people just want to dip in and dip out. But they were like. There's no attention. They were like the attention. But people like to sink into a book and be carried along. |
| 1:30.3 | And I was like, that's interesting. |
| 1:33.3 | By the way, speaking of the attention economy or whatever, you know, I'm doing these shows here in New York City at the Bell House. |
| 1:39.2 | Love you, everyone has come, explosive crowds. |
| 1:41.4 | And my friend told me that there was a woman at my show who was watching |
| 1:48.6 | my show laughing laughing along scrolling instagram reacting to stories part um would be laughing looking up |
| 1:56.0 | ha ha ha ha ha actively scrolling through stories. |
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