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Hello and welcome to episode 77 of Libro, the podcast about the most important

of the least important things, as Cleopatra once said to Mark Antony.

I'm Jonathan Wilson and I'd like to ask you to make of a familiar appeal to rate, review and

recommend us. Leaving comments, whether on YouTube, on Spotify, on Apple, anywhere, it really does

help with the algorithm and we are all slaves of the algorithm. And I'm joined today by Miguel

Valoney of the Independent and by John Brun of whoever

will have him. So Miguel, you were in Washington at the World Cup Draw over the weekend. How was that?

Did you win any peace prizes? I didn't. I didn't do enough this year, I suppose, although, you know,

open to interpretation whether my year would have matched.

The video that featured such a subjective interpretation of Donald Trump's recent

feats that was used to justify his peace prize, which I think remains my, I mean,

we'll get into this another podcast, remains my main takeaway from that event as absurd as the whole thing was.

It was kind of like just, there was a feel of tackiness about the whole thing despite the obvious expense.

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