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72 of Libra, the podcast about the most important of the least important things, as I believe it was Sol Campbell

who once observed. I'm Jonathan Wilson, and I'm joined today by Jack Pickwick of the Athletic

and Miguel Delaney of the Independent, who would like to stress that today he feels Spanish,

today he feels particularly Irish.

Before we get into the North London Derby, just what we're going to talk about.

I think we're all enjoying the adverts, aren't they?

It just gives an extra texture to the show.

I can't believe we didn't turn them on earlier.

I think artistically, aesthetically, morally, it has improved

us. And so I'd like the... The veneer of professionalism. Not just the veneer mix, we're now actually getting

paid for this thing in theory. We are now professional podcasters. It's like 1885 all over again.

But game's gone, but at least we're getting paid for it. But still, even though we've got the ads, please do continue to rate review and recommend us because the algorithm still matters. In fact, of anything, it matters more than ever because there's money on it. Not for you, but for us, and we're the most important people here. So we're looking ahead to Sonny's North London Derby, probably less at the specifics of this particular game than at the game as an institution. But before we get into that, Jack, you've just been to

Tirana. So how was that? Have you got your Norman Wisdom doll? No, no Norman Wisdom doll,

but yes, I had a really good time. Like, it's one of the, one of the upsides of covering England is you get to go to lots of places.

I mean, obviously, like, club football now is just Chelsea versus Barcelona forever, basically.

But international football, you know, this season, well, England have played in Riga, in Belgrade, and now in Tirana.

I really like Tarana.

I, it's clearly had lots of recent investment.

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