Hello and welcome to Libero, the podcast about the most important of the least important things, as Rob Earnshaw once said.

My name is Jack Pitbrook. I'm from The Athletic. I'm joined today by Jonathan Wilson.

And Tarrett Panjaf in the New York Times, Terry, you've just been in Milan.

I have. I've been watching some football in Milan from Libya, which is quite weird.

The Libyan Premier League is finishing its season in Milan, in three stadiums.

The country's split in two, so three teams from the east, three teams from the west.

And I attended the Tripoli Derby between Al-Ajli and Itihad on Sunday. Well, it was more of a fight than a football match.

Quite some scenes there.

Amazing. Well, we're going to talk today about the championship, which starts on Friday.

It's a really exciting season, really exciting league.

I think the question that everyone is asking, I think everyone's looking forward to seeing

how Birmingham City, the stars of built-in Birmingham, will get on against Ipswich Town on Friday,

and then about how Rexham, the stars of Welcome to Rexham, will get on against Southampton on Saturday.

Jonathan, let's start with you. Are you more excited about the football or about the documentaries?

I mean, you shouldn't judge the world by what I think. I'm more excited by the football,

but I think others are more excited by the documentaries. And for all my misgivings about the documentaries, it has injected money into both Rexham and Birmingham. They have done incredibly well with that money. I mean, Birmingham last season, I saw the game in the FA Cup when they lost very now to Newle. They were really good that day. They could easily won that game and it wouldn't have been a freak. 111 points. They were, I mean, I could be too big a team for that division anyway, but they were really, really good last season. It'd be interesting to see how high that will take them in the championship.

I think there has been a sense over the last four or five years.

It has been a bit of a gulf growing between the two divisions.

And yet you've seen Sundland and Ipswich sort of go almost straight.

But if Stonland have one season in the championship.

So be interested to see if Burbank can follow that.

Rex, I suspect, will find it slightly tougher,

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