Hi, this is Rory. We just wanted to thank you for listening to Libero and to let you know that there is a way you can help us if that's the sort of thing you might be interested in. Obviously, we started making this podcast because there aren't enough podcasts about football. But we also started making it because we liked talking to each other about football, about the industry we work in, and we wanted an excuse to do it more. We've really enjoyed doing it and it's been

really encouraging that so many of you seem to enjoy it too. But because we're not owned by one of

the two garries, the titans of the sports podcast world, we do kind of need your help. Telling your

friends or mentioning us on your social media is incredibly helpful, even if it's blue sky. But giving us a positive rating and especially

a positive review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify is even better. We're assuming that you're listening

because you think you can talk about football in a way that, for example, Rio Ferdinand Presents and

FC Bullard do not. But we are,

like everyone else, completely at the mercy of the algorithm, and they are both

currently ahead of us, which is a damning indictment

of the state of the nation. And the

only way to change that is to spread the word

and to say nice things about us on the podcast's

apps. Your help,

like your presence, is much appreciated.

And with that begging over, let's go on with it.

I am joined by John Bruin and by James Horncastle, who is back from holiday.

Horny, where have you been? How has it been? Tell us about.

I was in Argentina for two weeks,

and it was interesting listening to your hipster podcast last week, because very much,

whilst I was walking past the Chakarita Cemetery in Buenos Aires and looking at a second

division team called Atlanta and thinking, should I go and buy their shirt, I okay maybe I need to resist this now yeah we see you Horncastle we see

you it's good actually that you'd be in Chakarisa cemetery and you go for Atlanta rather than

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