Hi, I'm Jack Pittbrook from The Athletic. I'm joined today by James Horncastle from the Athletic,

Jonathan Wilson and John Bruin. I want to say it feels a bit like we're the Thursday team of Libero now,

which sounds a bit like the B team that Chelsea would play in the Europa Conference League every week.

The guys who don't get a chance on the big occasion.

I don't know if that, who gets to be Axel Desazzi, who gets to be Philip Jorgensen.

John, are you Keirland and Jusbury Hall? Very much in that mould, yeah. Local boy, out of his depth,

yeah, amongst the big boys, yeah. But but in the same time me and john are making

our fourth appearances so we're now the leading appearance makers on this podcast and we've played together

on three previous occasions which is also a record and yes i am in charge of the excel spreadsheet

that keeps account of this do you chel see it do they have an Excel spreadsheet?

If this is the project, you know.

That's why you need two in two or three years, you know.

That's why you need two sporting directors, James.

We just need one.

We'll have one of Chelsea's.

Anybody, it doesn't matter.

Well, welcome to the sixth episode of Libero,

and we're going to start today with a bigger question,

which we've been wondering,

which is, has this been a good season or not?

I think it depends what you mean by that,

which I guess is what we're going to be talking about, right?

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