All right, Pastor Mark here with Steve Dees from the Blaze and

first of all, I want to have a

Kind of a general conversation. I love pastors. I love the church. I am pastor of pastor church

but

It seems like a lot of evangelicalism is quickly sliding to the left

Either soft woke, which is not so much, you know celebrating the

Transgenderism and gender dysphoria. It's not what they're

Saying it's what they're not saying. Mm-hmm, you know, so like they'll be doing

Backflips for BLM and then Roe v Wade gets overturned and its silence on the abortion issue

So there is kind of that soft woke and then there's the the hard woke the I mean the you know the rainbow flag hanging on the church the

Lesbiterians, you know those people

I'll be stealing that term later

Yeah, and so within that though

It seems like underneath it

There tends to be at least in leadership

some sort of fear or weariness either a fear of what's gonna happen or

Awareness like I just can't handle the criticism and the attack and the pressure anymore

How do you deal with that? I'm I'm working on the hypothesis that not everyone likes you and supports you and

Rejection is like a part-time job, right?

so I have a unique perspective on this both because of the way I was raised

but also because I

Get to talk to a lot of your people

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