Getting knocked out by them last year and everything that's happened in the past.

It's tough, but yeah, we're pretty much going to be unanimously one of the most hated teams in baseball next year,

and that's completely fine.

It brings back to the old white socks of old where it was just kind of everyone didn't know what was happening,

and they were always terrified to play us,

and that's what we're going to get back to.

If spring training is all about setting a tone for the season,

I think Liam Hendrick's message is going to be heard loud and clear

inside the White Sox Clubhouse. And you are exclusively

hearing it right here on the White Sox Talk podcast brought to you by WinTrust. Hey everybody. It's

Chuck Arfine in Glendale, Arizona. And this is a great chat with the White Sox closer,

who doesn't hold back his thoughts, really on anything,

which is great.

But specifically, when I asked him about the lockout, what happened, why he felt it

took so long for the two sides to come to an agreement, and why, as an Australian,

he was so opposed to an international draft, or at least the way it was drawn up in the negotiations.

We talk about the birthday present.

Tim Anderson is supposed to give him.

Why Liam wasn't able to control his emotions and his language during his first live batting practice here at Camelback Ranch and more.

So it's Liam Hendricks.

Bringing out the Haderade on himself and the White Sox.

This entire White Sox team!

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