I'm Nora Mcnerney and this is Terrible Thanks for asking.

If you're a longtime listener of this show, you know by now that we often start our episodes

by talking to our guests about their childhood.

I am not a psychology expert, but I have been to a lot of therapy, so I know that the things

we go through as kids shape who we become as adults.

But for Liam and maybe for some of you too, there's just not much to talk about, because

Liam doesn't remember a whole lot about his childhood, not in any major detail anyway.

I feel like other people can be like, oh, I remember doing such such thing as a kid and

I'm like, I remember a photograph of me as a kid.

Like I don't have like memories where I'm in a child body, but it's like kind of just

like a black hole of nothing when I try and think back on it.

And I'm sure that has to do with trauma.

The details surrounding specific moments can be hard for all of us to recall.

It's sometimes easier to remember the general feeling of a time in your life.

And for Liam, that feeling was disconnection.

Like something just wasn't right.

I would say the first time I really realized that was like around probably age four or

five when I started going to school because it was like that then they'd make you line

up like boys and one line girls in the other line.

And I was always just like lining up in the boys line and they'd be like, no, you go

in this line and it was like, what?

Like I didn't, I never really thought of myself as a girl, you know?

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